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MarkTen (Philip Morris) e-cig
August 31, 2013
9:09 pm
Dynamite Harry
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Hi All,

Incredibly new to the board (as you'll see this is my first post) but I just wanted to take a second to drop some info on the new MarkTen e-cig from Philip Morris since I don't think it's available nationwide as of yet and I happen to be in a state that has them. Hopefully my experience with it will help you decide whether or not you want to drop your cash on it.

As a person who is right in the middle of transitioning between standard and e-cigs, I find myself looking for that proper substitute, whether it be GreenSmoke, V2, Cig 20, Seminole, The Magic Mist, Blu, etc…, etc…Yeah, I've experimented with a lot of stuff recently and still have more on the way. The MarkTen? Well, here's the lowdown.

The MarkTen is an ok e-cig if you're in a pinch, but anything beyond that is an absolute waste. The battery life is short, so short that if you bought it as a disposable for a night out on the town you may as well just toss your money out the window along with the few dozen drags you may get out of it. You'll be out on the corner with your analogs in no time. Despite their claim it's a disposable AND rechargeable, that's just not the case. These things don't last long enough to compete with any disposable I've ever used.

Luckily, I bought it with the intent of recharging it, and I just so happened to have a charger (the FIN from WalMart) that was compatible. So I recharged the battery and wore down the cartridge, which had a really heavy plastic taste at the end of it's life, which is odd since I'm used to more of a burnt taste. Since then, it's been sitting in my car since I have far better options at the ready. Now, the bullet points.

Battery: Poor. Extremely poor, even for something marketed as a disposable hybrid. If you've seen one of these in the store you'll know what I'm talking about. It's incredibly small and doesn't last long at all, which is what I guess is to be expected from a battery that size.

Size: Very small and light, comparable to that of a normal cigarette. I know people who think a standard e-cig is too heavy, so this may work out for them despite the diminished life.

Throat Hit: Not bad, actually. With the new "four draw" technology and not seeming to have the same cutoff as other e-cigs, Personally I thought it hit pretty well.

Taste: Pretty much non-existent, but then again, they only come in classic and menthol so I doubt they're looking to get into the flavor market just yet. It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible, it was just an alternative to regular smoking. I would imagine the up front thinking was that they don't make their regular cigarettes in vanilla, coffee, watermelon, so on and so forth, why an e-cig? Maybe they'll get around to doing so more research on that in the future, but right now the classic is just vapor with a minimal nicotine taste.

Overall: Overall, I would say the MarkTen is a decent kit for someone looking to get into e-cigs for the very first time. Not a huge investment, especially if you saw my remark about the FIN charger being compatible (because $15 is always better than $35, but don't even get into all that until you try the "disposable"). The throat hit is good. The flavor is okay (for someone coming off traditionals, although I haven't tried the Menthol) and the price isn't overly ridiculous for a starter/disposable ($8.99 at Speedway). If you try it and like it, awesome, keep it going and look into getting something a little more user friendly like those I mentioned above, or Halo, or some other brand IndSmo has reviewed and recommended. Hell, maybe you love the MarkTen and want to stick with that. By all means do. As a casual writer I've realized that comedy is subjective and e-cigs are very much the same way. Another man's junk is another man's treasure so to speak. In all honesty if I would have tried the MarkTen as my first e-cig instead of some Chinese garbage 5 years ago I probably would have stuck with it, but I didn't, and it's taken me this long to get back to giving it a try.

I will give PM credit for seemingly making their disposables exactly the same as their refill cartridges ( or compatible I guess) since a lot of companies don't appear to do this from my experience, but overall I think the product falls way short for someone who has actually been using e-cigs. A nice transition? Yes. A new brand for an existing user? No

I've probably rambled on longer than I should have without answering any questions that you may have, so If that's the case please feel free to leave a comment and I'll answer it the best way I can.

Dynamite Harry

August 31, 2013
10:45 pm
Steve
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Thanks for you review Harry. I have never heard of this brand, but it seems like big tobacco is jumping into the e-cig market, too bad their products are falling way short of what would help a smoker quit. I know what you mean about bad, my first ecig back in 2009 was just horrible, battery life was about 20 minutes, 2-3 hours to charge and the kit only came with one battery. The cartridges were a joke, no vapor and didn't last long at all.

There are far better kits out there and new stuff coming out everyday it seems. Sad that big tobacco with all their money doesn't come out with something that is better and using new technology. They certainly have the money to put out a decent product. Looks like they are happy to just get people who will only shop in retail stores or may not even know what is out there. Only they will waste their money to find that the kits don't work well and will be out on the search for something better.

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September 1, 2013
2:58 pm
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This brand is incredibly new. I think it's currently available only in Indiana and that's only been within the past two to three weeks. I expect the full rollout to be sometime within the next month based on what I've read, which is why I decided to proactively post a review on it in case anyone else has seen something about it and has given some thought to checking it out when it's available in their area.

They claim the four draw technology is proprietary, so I guess they're at least making some effort at being innovative, although they were probably well aware of the battery issues and went ahead with it because less battery life translates to more batteries purchased. Typical big tobacco I suppose.

September 1, 2013
3:07 pm
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So far big tobacco companies introducing new or re-worked e-cig products have been long on claims and short on details or delivery.

September 1, 2013
6:39 pm
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I definitely won't disagree with you there.

Just like any big corporation, it's more about mass production than quality. What's their real incentive to do anything otherwise though? The way I see it, if they put out an e-cig and someone who's giving some thought to quitting decides to buy it and likes it, they've got a customer in that realm. If they don't they probably figure that person will just go right back to smoking their traditionals, so they get that money plus whatever they may have put out to try the e-cig, which is a minimum of 9 bucks.

They've already set it up so you need a minimum of two batteries if you're gonna make a go of it, plus the charging kit, plus cartridges that run around 9-10 bucks for a pack of 4, so if you were to actually buy all of that it would cost around $65 and you're not getting a whole heck of a lot.

I've given some thought to picking up an extra battery just so I have some options if I'm in a pinch (I'm all about the convenience of grabbing something at the local store if need be, but I have better, more flavorful options with Cig 2o and Blu for that) but there's no way I'd invest in the charging kit or any cartridges unless I absolutely needed them.

September 11, 2013
12:34 pm
MidMoVaper
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Thanks for the review!

What was the draw and throat hit like on the Mark Ten? Notice any difference as the cartridge wore out?

September 11, 2013
12:43 pm
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I bet they're purposely making their ecigs crappy so people that don't know any better use there product to try and get off analogs and have a terrible experience and never try ecigs again. Its a conspiracy!!!

September 11, 2013
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I don't think that is why they are making crappy ecigs. They are trying to make a profit as cheaply as they can. They also are trying to break into the market with a cig alike ecig so that they can get them into retail stores by the cigarettes. Like I said, it is a shame because with their money, they could really do some great research into making much better equipment out there. In my opinion, they are not a force to be worried about in the ecig market, most of them are taking cheap Chinese ecigs and rebranding them with their name.

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September 19, 2013
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Dynamite Harry
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MidMoVaper said

Thanks for the review!

What was the draw and throat hit like on the Mark Ten? Notice any difference as the cartridge wore out?

Hi MidMo,

The throat hit wasn't that terrible overall, since the MarkTen has something called "Four Draw Technology" which has four holes on the mouthpiece instead of the standard one. I didn't notice much in the way of it getting weaker as I got to the end of the cart, but it started to develop a pretty heavy plastic taste.

Hope this helps.

April 25, 2014
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I live in MO and this is coming in June. I have had a chance to try the product which I guess they have redid it because the battery and charger seemed fine. You can buy the kits for about $10.49 and a 2pk of refills for about $6.49. It don't have a lot of taste but I like the vapor pens myself. Nothing at all wrong with this item and it is Philip Morris. It is going to be big just like if not more than the other Big e-cigs. They will have a nice little spot right by Marlboro I would guess. I will buy this item when it hit the shelf in MO. Thanks for reading.

April 25, 2014
1:58 pm
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I personally would not use anything Philip Morris manufactured. Back it the late eightys maybe early nineties can't remember exactly when but I do remember for fact. The FDA caught and punished them for adding over fifty known cancer causeing ingredients to Marlboro solely to make them more addictive. RJR saw this as a opportunity and started the "No Bull" campaign anyone remember? I changed brands and never smoked another. And actualy RJR introduced flavored cigarettes with the camel brand. They were wildly popular with young smokers until the government steped in. Wich may or may not cause fruity vapors problems in the near or distant future.

April 30, 2014
10:44 am
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I agree , I will not personally ever give more money to tobacco co.s if I know about it.

July 11, 2014
4:54 pm
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This product is not what I expected from a multibillion dollar company. It's crap…Plain and simple. Although, I do like the flavor of the regular. It reminds me of peanut butter cookies. The vapor production isn't any better than blue ecig. My battery died after 4 days and it is nearly impossible to return. The store I bought it from wont replace it and the Mark ten website wont even allow me to register to fill out an RMA form. It kept giving me an error message after numerous attempts. Besides all that, the website claims it takes 8-10 weeks for a return to be processed. What the hell? The cartridges also stopped producing vapor after a couple of hours. Here's a tip Phillip Morris, if you want to sell your product to your traditional cigarette customers? Make your electronic version as reliable as the combustible version. Also, Take a look at what the top companies are already doing and make yours better. Don't give me an inferior product for a higher cost. A pack of refill cartridges costs $5.99 and you only get two cartridges. That's ridiculous. You are paying more for a day of vaping than you are for a day of smoking. Cigarette costs are mostly taxes not manufacturing costs. Put back the Mark 0 and pick up a product that is worth your hard earned dollars. I am not a representative of any ecig company, just a hard working consumer that quit smoking after 18 years and tried all of the popular brands of ecigs.

V2 cigs is probably the best on the market. They have the latest technology and they are aware that their batteries don't last forever. So, they just replace them within about 4 days. They replace everything that might go wrong. Although, their cartomizers 99% of the time are functioning perfectly, they replaced a few that didn't so well. Their liquid is fantastic. Most liquids on the market are very fruity and overbearing, but V2's are smooth and satisfying. Their customer service is the best I've ever experienced compared to most others that only want your money, not your patronage. Save the frustration for something more meaningful. Don't waste your money. Go with a company that takes care of your needs…V2 cigs.

July 12, 2014
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im on vacation in NC and on the drive up to the rental house my battery died so I grabbed one of these at a gas station and although pleased initially with the vapor production and taste, those feelings left as soon as the battery died not 3 hours after buying it (thankfully I had recharged by then).. overall I give it a 2.5 outta 5 stars for a disposable ecig.

-Ben-
July 12, 2014
6:16 pm
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srqmoviemaker said

im on vacation in NC and on the drive up to the rental house my battery died so I grabbed one of these at a gas station and although pleased initially with the vapor production and taste, those feelings left as soon as the battery died not 3 hours after buying it (thankfully I had recharged by then).. overall I give it a 2.5 outta 5 stars for a disposable ecig.

"I feel your pain" :)

I hate running out of batteries to the point where I've become a battery hoarder. I have 3 Sony VTC-4's, 5 eFest 18350s, 2 40 amp "Vamped" 18650s, 2 Sony VTC-5s, and 4 more Sony VTC-5's coming in the mail (plus two of the 18650s that Volcano sells with their Lavatubes… but I won't use those on mechanical mods).

The only disposable I've ever tried was the Blu disposable "menthol" ecig. At the time, I thought it was a fine, albeit over priced, item. While I'm not a fan of disposables in general (just seems like a waste to me), I'm glad the option is there for people considering an alternative to smoking while standing in line at a convenience store/gas station.

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